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Old 01-28-2003, 09:26 PM   #1
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In a recent thread, there was some discussion about the advantage of sticking to classical poses and avoiding the candid "snapshot."

I want to submit this image by Sorolla which is a wonderfully candid pose that works.

Action scenes, such as this one, have that quick, magical, "Sprezzatura" quality. After reviewing many of his paintings, I can see that the more still the pose, the more numerous and finer the brushtrokes he employed. The excitement of color, value and texture would still be maintained - albeit on a more subtle scale - in a formal portrait.

The man remains my favorite painter of all time. Even the simplest stroke worked because it was a Stroke of Genius!

My teacher, Passantino, is the best living example I have ever found to this style.

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Old 01-29-2003, 12:19 PM   #2
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Addressing posterity

I have no quarrel with the "candid" pose as a work of art, but for me, a portrait is something the sitter wants said to the viewing public, and to posterity. As a history buff, I love portraits of famous people, kings, ministers, etc., because of who the sitters are. I never leave the Metropolitan museum of art without giving my salutations to the large bust of the emperor Constantine, for instance.

Sitting for a commissioned formal portrait is not an everyday event. The formal portrait declares to whomever gazes upon it, "Greetings. I wish to present for your contemplation...me." Thus do kings, generals, philosophers, what have you, daign, through their portraits, to connect directly with me, as the posterity for whom their portraits are intended. Tokens of achievements, insignia of office, tools of trade, family crests, views of their property or valued possessions, any or all would find their way into the formal portrait to communicate into the distant future who the sitters were, and how they mattered in their day.

As a portrait painter, I naturally pay attention to the craft, technique and genius of the painter, but a true portrait ought to efface the artist and leave the viewer and the sitter alone together.

This is a portrait of Louis XIV by Rigaud. The Sun King's gift of his likeness to me, his posterity.
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Old 01-29-2003, 02:02 PM   #3
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Catherine, you are absolutely right about historical portraits commanding the viewer
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Old 01-29-2003, 06:12 PM   #4
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I like it too

...but, ASOPA and the other portrait places will be quick to tell that you the mighty Sorolla painting is not a portrait but a figurative work. It's hard to say where to draw the line -- I'm glad it's not my job!

Some of his portaits (see the one the Spanish King) are really very boring. He excels at these looser beach scenes where he doesn't choke.
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