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Old 05-04-2005, 10:24 AM   #1
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Lisa, I hope you did'nt take it the wrong way about you only taking two hours. Just the opposite, bless you for only taking two hours, but making it look like it took you much longer. I simply enjoy taking my time, I'm in a business of rushing; I can tattoo a portrait in less than two hours. I just love creating, so I feel like I'm cheating myself doing something quick. Keep doing what you're doing, your speed must contribute to the freshness of the pieces.

Like David mentioned about the inexperience, it's the extra thinking I can do without. Struggling with color ends up taking so much of my time. I can't speak for David, but I would guess that half of the time I take on a pastel is stress.
Jimmie, not at all. You were very kind. It's just that when I see what you and David have done it inspires me to think about spending more time on my work. Perhaps I need some agony to get as good as I intend to get. I am always disappointing myself. Going really fast is actually a curse that is born of my impatience. If I had to spend days and days on anything I would never finish. It would get old too fast. No Jimmie, you are too sweet and generous. I need to think more about what I do.

As for struggling, first it doesn't show in your work. Secondly, even if you feel you are struggling please keep in mind how many color pieces you have done. Color will become second nature for you in no time at all. Then the stress will be gone and so will the challenge. I suspect at that point of mastery you will move on to some other medium so the excitement will return...but maybe that's just me, thinking like an artist again. I think I'm right though. I see it in you.


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Lisa, first of all, thank you so much for your comments - coming from a great pastellist like you, it means a lot! Jimmie is right. If you can do work - like "Lots 'o' Locks" - of that caliber - in two hours!!... don't knock it. What a gift! I still don't believe it (you are either lying, or exaggerating, or you are a freak of nature). So, really, speed is your friend. Or maybe, what you are really saying is that you are "on" speed when you do these pieces....hmmm....ok., now I'm starting to get it.
David, you are SO welcome. Seeing your work has been a kick in the pants. It is "jaw-dropping" as Michelle said. I don't think that if I spent forever on a portrait I could do that. Not only is your technique top knotch but your colors have mood and harmony I only see in my dreams.

I'm too old to be "on" anything but calcium pills but I might agree with the freak of nature part for a variety of reasons, mainly the unfortunate lack of patience I mentioned above.

To Jimmie and David: Remember how long you have both been doing pastels and then look in the mirror and kiss it.

You both have incredible and unique strengths and I am so glad to be part of this forum so I can watch those develop.
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Old 05-05-2005, 10:57 AM   #2
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Kimberly, thank you so much. Your encouragement - and everyone else's - means so much. It seems I go through a phase when I'm nearing completion of a piece, where the thing looks really ugly and I get discouraged. And then you guys bail me out!

Michele
, I'm glad you don't think it's depressing - in the future I'll have to take my sister's evaluations with a grain of salt.

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To Jimmie and David: Remember how long you have both been doing pastels and then look in the mirror and kiss it.
Unfortunately, when I look in the mirror I'm more likely to cry.
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