Favorite panels and suppliers?

Kimberly Dow · 03-13-2005, 06:21 PM

Here is the one he meant - I think -

Question: At what size should I have my panels cradled?

Answer: Any flexible surface that has different coatings on front and back, be it, gesso, sized canvas, and/or paint, is going to tend to cup one way or the other. The direction and severity of this cupping is dependant on the coatings used, their thickness and the degree in which they expand and contract. The floating cradle we use is designed specifically for the coatings that we have developed and their method of application. We generally recommend cradling panels that are over 16"x20", however, the need to cradle a panel becomes more apparent on a panel that has a much more radical aspect ratio, for example, a 16"x20" panel has an aspect ratio of 4:5, a panel with the dimensions of 12"x16" has a A.R. of 3:4, making it more "radical" and thus is more likely to cup.

Question: Will framing an uncradled panel be sufficiant in preventing cupping?

Answer: Yes, on panels 16"x20" or smaller the overall cupping will be almost inperceptable when framed.

Question: How can you frame a cradled panel?

Answer: In exactly te same manner you would frame a 1/4" panel. The cradle is 3/4" in height making the overall thickness of the cradled panel 1". The cradle strips are set back 1/4" from the panels edge, facilitating framing by conventional methods.

I hope this answers some of the questions you might have regarding cradled panels. Please feel free to post regarding this or any other ground/support related questions

Terri Ficenec · 03-13-2005, 11:01 PM

Jean, the 16x20 was the cutoff recommended by realgesso, too... so there's probably something to that. I'm noticing that the Source Tek panels that Ardith mentioned recommend cradling over 12x16...

Ardith-- hadn't heard of those... let us know what you think!

Linda, what a neat idea to hang it using the cradle! Can picture how nice that would look.

Thanks Kim, that's good to know! I'm hoping my panels get here SOON so I can try them out!

Jean Kelly · 03-14-2005, 12:14 AM

Hi Terri.

I'm waiting impatiently for some of mine also, at least I have a project to work on in the meantime.

Jean

Julie Boyles · 03-19-2005, 12:20 PM

Kim,

When you say you will seal your panel with thinned Titanium, do you mean acrylic titanium? I used one of these panels recently and my first layer sunk in also. I didn't mind too much because it was my under painting. But when I started to put on my first layer of paint, some parts sunk in and some didn't, making it very difficult to use. I have several more panels I would like to use and I have some acrylic titanium white paint. I just wondered if this might work.

Thanks,
Julie
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Kimberly Dow · 03-19-2005, 02:08 PM

Julie,

What Max told me about sealing them is that there are different ways - and it's what you prefer.

The way I want - because I like painting on a very white surface, is to use (no acrylic!) Titanium white thinned with turps. You can use any color I imagine. From what I see, if you thin it too much though you'll still have the sinking in - so not too thin. Im going to practice with it with the small samples he sent me.

Another way he suggested was to put linseed oil on it and rub it in with your hand. The heat gets it in there good - then wipe off the excess. I will try that on a sample also, but knowing that the extra oil means you'd want your paint to to be oily on top of that - in other words - after doing that you couldnt have any turps (even just a bit from washing out a brush) on top of that.

He told me a couple other choices I believe -
but my memory is no good. Bill W did it a different way to seal it as well on a thread here.

Max reads these threads and can answer these better than I. Im hoping he will join here to answer some of these, but if not - you can email him at [email protected]. He also has a forum on his site that answers some of this.

After I experiment - I'll let you all know my results though.