Charlie, beloved Father - Page 2

Jeff Fuchs · 12-17-2003, 12:27 PM

I can't think of many online demonstrations that would tell you more than ryder's book, but there are some good ones. Jimmie Arroyo posted a hair demo on Wet Canvas. It includes close up scans of his work, which we don't usually see:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/show...hreadid=134738

His technique is the opposite of Ryder's, in that he consistently follows the direction of the hair (with great success). It goes to show you -- there's more than one solution for any problem in art.

Patricia Joyce · 12-17-2003, 12:35 PM

Jimmie is amazing!! But even he makes faces as curly hair!!! I went to my Leonardo daVinci books, especially his letters to his students. He says hair should always cascade like water - in waves...

I could not find a reference of Peggy's son's portrait. Could you point me in the direction? We are talking Peggy Baumgartner?? I went to her website but found no reference.

Jeff Fuchs · 12-17-2003, 01:11 PM

Here's the link. I dearly love that portrait. It's very sensitive. It's also a good example of well-drawn hair.

http://www.portraitartist.com/baumga...coal/paul2.htm

Patricia Joyce · 12-17-2003, 02:03 PM

Yeah, I like this one too, very sweet!

Steven Sweeney · 12-17-2003, 03:59 PM

The shape of the head overall is improved, and now there are other adjustments that can be made, some remaining from earlier and some newly introduced. I

Patricia Joyce · 12-18-2003, 11:51 AM

Another late night, I post the results. Almost done? Thank you Steve, Jeff, and Chuck for your help. I did pay attention to all your suggestions. I don't know if I should go darker on the left side in shadow. Every time I do it makes him look heavy. Looking at it just this morning, on my screen I think I need to work on the hair a bit more and the texture and tone of the jacket. This piece is a gift for his son, Jack, who is happy with the portrait at this point, so I am thinking it may be finished. Would still like your opinion.

I am hoping my next portrait will be one of Jimmie Arroyo's models, full lips, huge eyes, STRAIGHT hair!!!

Patricia Joyce · 12-19-2003, 10:28 AM

A few minor adjustments on shadow side, jacket, tie. It's done and I post it for the last time. I'm not crazy about this one, on to the next with more knowledge for next portrait.