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Old 12-21-2004, 07:45 PM   #1
Michele Rushworth Michele Rushworth is offline
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I have read that the old masters often used "ladies of the night" for their female models, and convicted prisoners as their male models.
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Old 12-21-2004, 08:08 PM   #2
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Sharon, stinks that it would take that much trouble to find models, especially that you're paying them! Don't these kids need money?!? Are people more shy around your area?

I'm broke and have no time, but I think I'd be able to get people to sit for me in my area. Maybe Joisey girls are more vain. I'm not pretty, but I'd sit for you.
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Old 12-21-2004, 08:52 PM   #3
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Jimmie,

I do have some serious interest from some of the galleries I have recently approached. They seem to prefer my more cutting edge pastels, like the "Green Dakini". I think a painting of you in a Moulin Rouge corset, tutu and tights should thrill them. Send pictures and measurements.

Michele,

One of my favorite paintings is "Olympia" by Manet and apparently she had other income outside of the fine arts. Most of the old masters were men. It's not the girls I am afraid of it's the boyfriends. Got to find an NRA sticker to paste on my door.
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Old 12-21-2004, 09:52 PM   #4
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I think a painting of you in a Moulin Rouge corset, tutu and tights should thrill them.
This I gotta see. Jimmie, Sharon, let us know if this painting concept ever sees the light of day!
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Old 12-21-2004, 10:31 PM   #5
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Sharon,

Bummer. Hey - maybe you can reform one of these ladies of the night. Saint Sharon.

I love using my teen models. Of course, I use photos mostly so I dont need to have them the hours you do. Consider them during the summer....they can be so ridiculously flawless.
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Old 12-21-2004, 10:37 PM   #6
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It's all about connections.....

Hi Sharon -

What an image you sent our way!

I know I have had success finding models from the teens in my church and their friends. Once there is a relationship and they know you're harmless, it really helps. Plus, another thought besides church teens - if you know anyone who's a friend to homeschooling families, you might be able to make some contacts that way. They're usually really nice kids who are free during the day when their public school counterparts are not available.

It's all about the family knowing you and trusting you. Good luck!
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Old 12-28-2004, 09:11 PM   #7
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Well, I'm a little late responding here...the Scottsdale Artist's School pays its models, I think, $15/hr 3 hr minimum. Probably $1-2 more for nudes. Let me also mention that all the models are fantastic. They are professional, and absolutely understand how to do what I certainly could not do.

I have paid, usually, nothing - a set of the photographs, an 8x10 print of the painting, a copy of my book.

When I conduct a workshop, I pay $100 per day, with breakfast and lunch, and charming interactions with interesting artists plus a CD of all the photos we take. So it represents a full day of work and a little extra over the school. I have heard that some of the school's more 'ethnic' models charge up to $50 per photo or some such thing. That's way beyond my interest.

Last year I was a last minute exhibitor at a Western Art Show and had to produce 8 original 'western' oils in about 3 -4 weeks time, way too much stress and way too little time to do this leisurely. I went to the local movie extra casting company and asked to see the Native American databases, the Hispanic databases, and the Italian and Jewish databases. I called late Thursday, went in Friday, picked my model out in about 6 minutes, and arranged a photo shoot for the next Monday. My model (professional) was more perfectly gorgeous and gracious than should even be allowed, and I was able to complete three paintings of her for the show. I have about 4-5 more portraits waiting in the batch I took, and hope to actually start one next week. The agency charged $50 per hour , 3 hour minimum. And I knew I could count on her showing up. So, getting 8-9 portraits out of the session was an excellent value. It just doesn't work economically for me to hire for the workshop, although I would love to have her again, for me.

When I asked some western artist friends how they get models, they told me, "Well you have to sign up for a 2- week excrusion in ND, it costs $2000, but it's already over for the year..." or "Drive up to Wickenburg, ( a 1hr+backroad venture,) and ask around for a guy named ____" One of my favorite students from Tucson, says, "Hey, come paint ____. Everyone does." So if you wonder why all of the Indian Chiefs in SW ART Magazine look the same, it's because they ARE the same.

So that's a lot of rambling. I have enjoyed just introducing myself to people I think are beautiful, asking them to model, and have been so very fortunate. They have all turned out to be lovely individuals as well. Too bad I didn't have the same insight in picking boyfriends 25 years ago.
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