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Old 10-14-2005, 11:22 AM   #11
Alexandra Tyng Alexandra Tyng is offline
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Ambiguity and wonder




I find there is a fine line between corny and not corny. When a painting is corny or overdone in some way, it makes me cringe. Kim, your work is not like that, at least what I've seen of it.

I'm probably talking more about what I prefer to paint. I find that, if I set out just to paint someone, I usually am more successful at picking up the subtle emotions than if I set out to do a thematic painting and make the emotion obvious.

I guess I'm not really moved to paint anguish and despair, though I admire those who can do so successfully. I still think the paintings I most enjoy looking at are those with some degree of ambiguity. For instance, Kim, your Unrequited raises some question in the viewer, even if one knows the title. I keep staring at it, wondering what is going on in her mind and emotions even though I empathize strongly. I like staring at a painting, wondering what the person is feeling and thinking, wondering what the person is/was like.

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Old 10-14-2005, 12:04 PM   #12
Andrea Kantrowitz Andrea Kantrowitz is offline
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Monk's work is really interesting, thanks for making us aware of it. I think she has a very different audience than the professional portrait artist, an audience that is probably looking for edgier work, and I can't help being a bit jealous.

Michele, i relate to your comment about kids who need braces. That's why I turned to portrait commissions (and my guess is a lot of people on this forum would agree) it was the best way I could figure out to make money as a working mom with skills I already had, and still have the flexibility to be there for my kids.

Its been a struggle for since the first commision to balance what I knew and loved about painting before, with what I've learned about pleasing the client since. The emotional qualities are always key in what parents want to see in their children.

By the way, do people know The Artist's Complete Guide to Facial Expression ?
Gary Faigin is extremely thorough in breaking down the anatomy of emotional expression in the face, and I've found this a useful reference for myself, and for teaching.
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Old 10-24-2005, 11:37 PM   #13
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Oh - I just saw all these replies.

Michele, your absolutely right. It is a whole different ball game. There are commissions, which is money upfront and then there is trying to sell paintings that are your own ideas. Most clients are not going to be interested in showing strong emotions in their portraits. I keep thinking if I lived in a different part of the country I'd be doing more commissions. I love doing the figurative work, but you never do know when one is going to sell. I've personally had better luck with selling figuratives though. I wouldnt turn down decent commissions, but I like going the gallery route too. There is a certain amount of joy in being able to develop your own ideas and express them. There arent clients to contend with, but you still have to consider the market to some degree. I wouldnt want to get into the real anguish and despair type of paintings either....unless it could be done and still be beautiful maybe.

For me personally, the perfect balance would be to do figuratives and a good healthy amount of portraits as well. That would be the best of both worlds.

Alex, thank you! I love hearing that you are wondering about what she is thinking. Just that it would be interesting enough to wonder about means its sucessful to me.

And by the way, my daughter just got braces last month - wish me luck!
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Old 10-25-2005, 09:42 AM   #14
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By the way, do people know The Artist's Complete Guide to Facial Expression ?
Gary Faigin is extremely thorough in breaking down the anatomy of emotional expression in the face, and I've found this a useful reference for myself, and for teaching.
Yes, the author runs the Art Academy here in Seattle. A nice guy and very talented artist, too. When I met him I thanked him for writing the book and told him it had saved my hide more than once when faces I was painting needed help!
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