Portrait Artist Forum    

Go Back   Portrait Artist Forum > Techniques, Tips, and Tools


Reply
 
Topic Tools Search this Topic Display Modes
Old 10-12-2002, 11:16 AM   #1
Michele Rushworth Michele Rushworth is offline
CAFE & BUSINESS MODERATOR
SOG Member
FT Professional
 
Michele Rushworth's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 3,460



I imagine this wholistic way of learning began (and maybe ended?) in the Renaissance -- hence the term Renaissance Man, used to describe someone who is learned in a wide range of fields.

This is why Leondardo da Vinci became who he was, I guess. He was as learned in the arts as he was in the sciences.

Too bad organized education doesn't still teach that way. I had a difficult time as a high school senior choosing whether to pursue a science major or an art major in college. It would have been nice to study both. (I chose art but for fun I have been known to read books on nuclear physics -- no kidding!)
__________________
Michele Rushworth
www.michelerushworth.com
[email protected]
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2002, 12:20 PM   #2
Michele Rushworth Michele Rushworth is offline
CAFE & BUSINESS MODERATOR
SOG Member
FT Professional
 
Michele Rushworth's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 3,460
Cynthia, I'll be in Florida in February. We really should meet and talk about portraits and protons over coffee sometime!
__________________
Michele Rushworth
www.michelerushworth.com
[email protected]
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2002, 01:39 PM   #3
Michele Rushworth Michele Rushworth is offline
CAFE & BUSINESS MODERATOR
SOG Member
FT Professional
 
Michele Rushworth's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 3,460
"Spontaneous brushwork after careful design." That's the best description of what I'd like to aim for in my work, too. Well put!

I suppose that's also what Sargent was doing when he would hold his brush motionless in the air for a very long time -- and then paint with great energy.
__________________
Michele Rushworth
www.michelerushworth.com
[email protected]
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-2002, 11:51 AM   #4
Jeanine Jackson Jeanine Jackson is offline
Associate Member
CSOPA, President
FT Professional
 
Jeanine Jackson's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Location: Greenwich & Palm Beach
Posts: 420
Send a message via AIM to Jeanine Jackson
Thank You!

Thank you so much for posting this thread. I will be using the Fibonacci Spiral in my next oil painting, "Ralph!"
__________________
Jeanine C. Jackson
www.JeanineJackson.com
[email protected]
CSOPA Founder & President Emerita (www.CSOPA.org)
PSoA CT Ambassador (www.PortraitSociety.org)

MA Distributor www.MarketAmerica.com/JeanineJackson
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2002, 01:26 PM   #5
Jeanine Jackson Jeanine Jackson is offline
Associate Member
CSOPA, President
FT Professional
 
Jeanine Jackson's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Location: Greenwich & Palm Beach
Posts: 420
Send a message via AIM to Jeanine Jackson
Art and Science

The art in science and the science in art is very interesting to me.

After a fine arts "major" in high school, I put my brushes on a shelf and obtained undergraduate degrees in Philosophy and General Science. It was during that time I developed a poetic love for science. "Differential Equations" was one of my electives, as I learned about the the universal language of mathematics and the sheer wonder of nature.

I went on to study medicine at the University of Florence, Italy. I did a number of years there leading toward Pediatric Cardiac Surgery. As my career progressed, I became progressivey more isolated and unhappy. I dropped out prior to taking the Hippocratic oath.

Feeling rather guilty about leaving med school after all those years of study, I attended a special exhibit of DaVinci notebooks (on loan from the National Gallery of London) at the Palazzo Vecchio in 1984. I really went to make my apologies to my idol, Leonardo.

A tour guide was telling a small group about Leonardo and his passion for both science and art. I listened in as she explained that he would frequently flip from one job to another - from engineering to scuplture, mathematics to painting - often to the dismay of his patrons who would be stuck with incomplete work!

I felt deeply and profoundly understood.

My teacher now, George Passantino, warns against over-analyzing. He likes to quote Sorolla who said something like "If I can't paint fast, I don't paint!"

Still, the underpinnings of beauty can be analyzed. I like to call my methodology "Alla prima dopo" which translates into "At first after" or, for me, "Spontaneous brushwork after careful design."

Thanks to you - the designers and members of this forum - I feel understood once again!
__________________
Jeanine C. Jackson
www.JeanineJackson.com
[email protected]
CSOPA Founder & President Emerita (www.CSOPA.org)
PSoA CT Ambassador (www.PortraitSociety.org)

MA Distributor www.MarketAmerica.com/JeanineJackson
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2002, 10:48 PM   #6
Mari DeRuntz Mari DeRuntz is offline
STUDIO & HISTORICAL MODERATOR
 
Mari DeRuntz's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Location: Southern Pines, NC
Posts: 487
Thanks for the simplified explanation of how to apply the golden mean.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2002, 11:34 PM   #7
Mari DeRuntz Mari DeRuntz is offline
STUDIO & HISTORICAL MODERATOR
 
Mari DeRuntz's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Location: Southern Pines, NC
Posts: 487
Compass substitute

Hi Elizabeth,

You don't need a compass. Tie a string around your pencil, hold the other end steady, and you can scribe a circle. You're looking for the intersecting lines of the circles drawn, and this method will be quite accurate.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2002, 12:47 AM   #8
Mari DeRuntz Mari DeRuntz is offline
STUDIO & HISTORICAL MODERATOR
 
Mari DeRuntz's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Location: Southern Pines, NC
Posts: 487
Math/science connection to art

Movement can originate from any of the four corners of the canvas; in Western art, paintings generally read from left to right, just as we read a book.

There are two very interesting ways to look at the
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-2002, 11:02 PM   #9
Elizabeth Schott Elizabeth Schott is offline
SOG Member
Featured in Int'l Artist
 
Elizabeth Schott's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 1,416
This whole concept is awesome, especially when you look at all things pleasing applying these rules. Cynthia the site link http://library.thinkquest.org/27890/...=1&tqtime=1010
Is a wonderful tool for so many things, you are truly a wealth of knowledge.
__________________
www.ewsart.com
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2002, 05:36 PM   #10
Elizabeth Schott Elizabeth Schott is offline
SOG Member
Featured in Int'l Artist
 
Elizabeth Schott's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 1,416
I tried to apply this today. I did it two ways in my "value" sketch phase.

Karin's way, was easier, but the interest point was very low - funny it ended up being just about the perfect spot though.

By way of the site, I searched the house to find a compass but someone made off with my circle templates; after laboring, the size wasn't going to work. But wow, it is a different way of looking at things. I am surprised in my photography classes this wasn't taught since we spent so much time on Gestalt Psych.
__________________
www.ewsart.com
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing this Topic: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Topic Tools Search this Topic
Search this Topic:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

 

Make a Donation



Support the Forum by making a donation or ordering on Amazon through our search or book links..







All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:14 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.