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Old 01-14-2009, 07:02 PM   #1
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It's kind of like when an artist accepts accolades for the drawing in a portrait that has been projected from a photo and traced. Once again, accepting the benefits (monetary or awards) from work not performed.
Clayton I think this is a whole other issue which maybe deserves it's own thread. So basically you are saying that Vermeer and Ingres are frauds?
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Old 01-14-2009, 08:55 PM   #2
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Alex,

I agree, it is quite disturbing. I only meant to point out that the gallery owner is not committing fraud. He is, though perpetuating poor substitutes for art.

It is our responsibility to educate the public on what makes for a truly good portrait and a piece of fine art.

I wish that every portrait exhibition could include the reasons why the paintings accepted or won. It just doesn't seem to be enough just to award prizes based on some secret that the public is unaware of (and sometimes me too).
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Old 01-20-2009, 04:29 PM   #3
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I can see where a modern artist could make great use of these kinds of services. He could hire one offshore artist to come up with concepts, and a painting mill to paint the final works, then have the final paintings shipped directly to the gallery and put in a show

The theme of the exhibit would be that he had created a body of work that he himself has never seen, nor has any knowledge of its content. Very cutting edge.

He could make millions!

Note: This is my original idea, and I reserve the right to profit from it in the biggest possible way. If you steal my plan, you owe me money!
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Old 01-20-2009, 04:57 PM   #4
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Jeff,
are you sure? I believe Jeff Coons already does it?
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Jeff Coons comes up with his own ideas and compositions and his staff of artists manifest them. Mark Kostabi (http://www.kostabi.com/ ), on the other hand, hires people to do every aspect of the work from concept to signing the painting and is proud of the fact he has nothing at all to do with its production.

I saw a documentary where two people, who had just bought a painting of Kostabi's for 10s of thousands of dollars, thanked him , at his opening, professing gratitude for the work he created. He in turn told them that he had nothing at all to do with the painting and actually showed them great distain.
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