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Old 03-02-2006, 03:06 PM   #1
Patricia Joyce Patricia Joyce is offline
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Thank you, Terri. Yes, I am going to use my daughter-in-law and new granddaughter this weekend, take bunches of pictures to decide a couple of good setups. I think the greatest challenge will be engaging the five year old, hoping that she responds to my grandmotherliness (is that a word??!) I don't have the greatest camera, but I am going to borrow my sister's and use both of them so that I can take a couple hundred shots!!! I've reread every thread on the forum about photo references which is such a great aid.
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Old 03-02-2006, 03:47 PM   #2
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Nicely done.

When the client is there try to breathe slowly. Also move and talk more slowly than you normally would. Rushing around and talking fast gives away a lack of confidence.
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Old 03-02-2006, 04:48 PM   #3
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Thank you, Sharon. I will do just that, I would not have thought about it. Interestingly, I have held that Cleveland, Ohio is a poor city for portraiture. When I spoke to the gentleman yesterday he said his wife can't understand why he would even want a portrait done! He had no idea what the procedure is (even though I attached a description of the process of creating a portrait) and actually sounded nervous talking to me. This actually boosts my confidence a bit. He may have an image of me wearing a beret and white smock with really puffy sleeves!!

And as far as his wife is concerned, I reassured him that she would understand his desire for a portrait of their precious daughter when she sees the finished product. And I told him, "this will be fun"! I sure hope so...
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Old 03-02-2006, 05:36 PM   #4
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Do wear the beret and smock and add a Daliesque moustache. That'll convince him.
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Old 03-02-2006, 05:49 PM   #5
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I bet you look cute in a beret Pat

A little trick that I sometimes use with the kids is to play 'mirror' with them-- asking them to move/hold their head the same way that I move mine, like a mirror, then tilt angle my head different ways and make different expressions. . . it can help if they're stiff (they're thinking about what you're doing rather than getting their picture taken). . . and for a little while, anyway, they seem to think that's fun. . . it helps to get some variety in angles/poses, too. Another trick is to get them settled, tell them to relax that you're just adjusting some camera settings, and talk to them while you 'pretend' to futz with the camera (really you're taking pictures) -- sometimes you can get some really nice relaxed shots this way. . . anyhow, just some things to keep in your back pocket. . . It sounds like you're gonna be ready for them.
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Old 03-02-2006, 09:47 PM   #6
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Pat, this looks great. You are going to turn Cleveland around and bring it into the forefront of the portrait world singlehandedly!
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Old 03-03-2006, 11:36 AM   #7
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Sharon,
Do you think I could find a red mustache?? What a hoot!

Terri,
No, I look terrible in hats. Once went to an actual milliner with a friend, who of course looks beautiful in hats. They insisted on trying to find one for me and....the saleswoman shook her head after about fifteen hats and exclaimed, "I never met anyone who wore hats so, so, poorly" I could only laugh (I have a really narrow forhead)
Thank you, though for all your GREAT ideas. I will do just that with the mirror, then I thought to have coloring books and crayons at the table, and I am going to fill my easel with huge paper and magic markers. I like the idea of telling her to relax while I fuss with the camera...would never have thought to do that. I will let you know how it goes in the photo critique section in a couple weeks. I'm excited.

Alexandra you are so kind. Cleveland is a tough city to change, people are so set in their ways, but come on, who could resist a darling portrait of their little one...
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Old 03-03-2006, 02:36 PM   #8
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Hi Pat,

Nicely done! I especially love the way the arm has turned out- great modeling. I am happy to hear you are picking up commissions. It's nice to see when hard work finally pays off. Good for you
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Old 03-06-2006, 09:25 PM   #9
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Pat--

Nice job...Let us know how everything turns out.

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