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Old 04-23-2005, 10:43 AM   #1
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Thanks Mike, I had a great time too. It is always wonderful to get together with people who have the same interests and are great company.

Just look at all this brain storming going on about where to put the yy symbol! It is so interesting to hear about all these different ideas.
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Old 04-25-2005, 08:46 AM   #2
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Hi Mike,

is that the final proportion of the whole picture (in your drawing)? With the hat cropped? By the photo I found the top of the hat too interesting to be left out. What size the painting will be?

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Old 04-25-2005, 09:12 AM   #3
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Ant,

For the composition of the drawing that you see, on a 20 x 16 inch canvas, the head would be approx. 7.3 inches.

As I look at the full photo image below, it seemed to tall for a head and shoulder painting. And when you include some space (not enough shown in the photo I think) above the top of the hat it becomes a little top heavy. I think if you were to go down to the waist and include the arms and hands the full hat would look more proper. My thinking was that there was enough of the hat left to be fully explained.

Thanks for the look, I too enjoy these compositional puzzles.

You can compare them below.
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Old 04-25-2005, 10:16 AM   #4
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Yes, composition is always interesting.
Maybe with your artistic license you could incline the hat a bit so it can be shown - you can play with it even more than I did, roughly, in these images.
As for the yin-yang symbol, there is something mystical in the eyes of the model as she seems to be looking at something that is not real. You can use that at your service too, and suggest the yin-yang in the background, distorted or with some perspective.
That's what came up into my mind regarding this work.

Good luck. Interesting job you have here. I look forward to see how you will work it out.

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Old 04-25-2005, 10:56 AM   #5
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It's obvious that this group enjoys a challenge.

I think yours is a reasonable approach. The key would be the tone subtlty of the background image.

Personally I don't like the way the sculpture has taken liberties with the symbol. It looks fine in the restaurant setting, but I think if I were to include it I would keep it as simple as possible.
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Old 04-25-2005, 02:13 PM   #6
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I agree about the sculpture. A simpler way to represent the symbol would be better, especially for the background.
With your idea, I played a bit more with the image. I am not good at these digital editing, so my edges are really rough.
I am enjoying this anyway. I think I am sometimes too lonely of an artist, inside these four walls in the middle of something called Brazil.

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Old 04-25-2005, 02:36 PM   #7
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Mike,
I think Ant is on to something here. I would tone down the light value of the YY symbol a little more to push it more subtly into the backround. By the way if you haven't visited Ant's web site you should do so. Ant is doing some incredible work.

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