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Old 02-09-2005, 03:36 PM   #1
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You are so naturally gifted with pastels!




Jimmie, when you ever organize your pastel and graphite portrait academy down the road (hopefully sometime soon), I will be among the first students to enroll! Seriously, I can see you giving a Forum demonstration down the line.

This portrait is so fresh, painterly, and yet so descriptive and polished. Bravo! I hope you undertake some more pastels portraits to share your growth with us.

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Old 02-10-2005, 10:17 AM   #2
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Don't know how I missed this, but it's great to see that you got through this one with flying colors (pun sort of intended, if you like puns). Just wonderful!

I especially liked seeing how you took Sharon's advice and touched up the eye - it made quite a difference! This is a bit of Monday morning quarterbacking, but the next time you encounter a model with this kind of heavy makeup, get in close and photograph just for eye detail. And if you forget, put a stand-in under the same lighting. Sure, everyone's eye shape is different, but the overall construction is the same.

Like Marvin, I am barely familiar with pastels - but it is much akin to any opaque medium, I see. That in mind - how much further is it to a full color oil from here?
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Old 02-10-2005, 11:38 AM   #3
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More thanks!

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What size is this? I'm concerned the nose stud (depending on the size of the portrait) may look like something else - like a mole maybe.
The total size is 13x28" and that closeup was about 2 1/2x5". I brightened the nose stud, so it looks more like a highlight off jewelry. Thanks for bringing it up.

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My first attempt is getting overly tight and FAR from fresh
That's part of my problem also. My brain wants to do tight, and my heart wants loose. The rest of my body wants sleep. Balancing all three is tough.

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Seriously, I can see you giving a Forum demonstration down the line.
Thank you, but that would be WAAAY down the line. I might be able to do it with graphite, but I'll need a ton-o-practice myself before I can get comfortable with pastels. Daniel Greene's tapes are very informative, so is Anthony Ryder's book. Don't think I could do that. My pastel tapes would be over 17 hours. 3 hours of finished work, another 3 hours of me standing there wondering what to do, an hour waiting for the heat, and ten hours dedicated to blunders and bloopers.

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but the next time you encounter a model with this kind of heavy makeup, get in close and photograph just for eye detail
I think I was in such a rush to take the pictures, that I forgot to ask her not to wear makeup. This was the first time in a very long time, that I went to the model's house to take pics. I had been taking them at the shop I work until my art was causing problems. Now that I've done it a couple of times, I should be more relaxed with my head straight. I'm also considering getting a monitor to work from so I'd be able to get closeups for detail. Best Buy is having a sale on LG monitors and they have a rebate on them. My brother gave my a gift certificate, so I need to see how much I can save.

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That in mind - how much further is it to a full color oil from here?
Even longer than I thought. I would like to concentrate on the pastels for now, and given only a couple hours a day to work on them, it's just tough to do more than one thing at a time.

Thanks also to Marvin and Carolyn for the nice words.

About the painting, I'm now stuck on the shirt. I have only a few blues to work with and I can't find a nice mid-tone. I painted the entire shirt burnt orange first because the blue I was using was too intense. I was thinking of maybe a medium gray to go over it, then the lights? Or should I just go out and get a bunch of blues? Maybe me and my credit card can go to Brooklyn this Monday and get some Doaks.

I am going to ask Linda about moving this over to the WIP area as I still have several more hours to go.
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Old 02-10-2005, 12:00 PM   #4
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Jimmie,

As you pointed out about the blue shirt was actually my second thought when looking right now.

Maybe you could make a warmer shadow in the deepest blue folds in the shadow side? That is an old trick, and why Umber means Shadow. Not in the shadows on the lit side since they are colored by reflection from the blue shirt itself, so they may be even more blue. ( Just like the folds in skin color are more intense in the light side of the face)
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Ps. My first thought was, wow he is good!
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Old 02-16-2005, 03:51 AM   #5
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Thanks Allen for the tips.

So, I broke down and spent the money on the Doaks. His range of blues are beautiful, just wish I could have gotten more.

Worked on the shirt for a couple hours, maybe longer, and worked on her hair. Even with the new colors, the shirt was a struggle, reworking multiple times. The hair was a bit of luck, once I found a good color, it went fairly painless.

My next panic attack will be the background. I'm going to make some color sketches because I would really like to add some kind of border in the orange family. Preferably simple and basic.

Thanks for looking.
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Old 02-16-2005, 08:19 AM   #6
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WOW! Jimmie it looks fantastic.
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Geez! Jimmie you are fantastic!
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