Jamie in a tux

Linda Brandon · 04-19-2004, 09:57 AM

JSSargent
W. Graham Robertson, 1894
90" x 46"
(Tate, London)

Michele Rushworth · 04-19-2004, 10:20 AM

Nope. It's a three quarter length of a man in black on a black background, a pianist friend of Sargent's. I couldn't find it online, though it is in one of the Ormond books.

Kimberly Dow · 04-19-2004, 11:22 AM

OK - Mr. Used-to-be Texan - your trying to tell me that a casual arrangement like I mentioned could not be called a portrait? If we are all looking at the viewer? Maybe outside somewhere scenic?

Can someone start a thread on this? I want to see examples of good portraits that are different or casually arranged..with at least 3 people. Show those that you'd consider portraits vs. figuratives.

For example: Linda Nelson had that long tall portrait of a large family - great composition. They are all interacting nicely. Why would that be a portrait and not one like I described? The main difference is that we wouldnt be standing...?

OK, Mike - I'll do a collared-shirt one of one of my family just to prove I can if you'll start that thread for me.

Mike McCarty · 04-19-2004, 02:47 PM

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OK, Mike - I'll do a collared-shirt one of one of my family just to prove I can

You don't have to do that, I'm sure you could do it. I was just having flashbacks of your last "many figured" project.

What you were describing was an indoor scene with a bunch of folks sorta knarled up, these (if there are any of these) can be tough to light and difficult to compose at best. That's not to say that you couldn't do it, but, it might take a village to pull it off well.

Michele Rushworth · 04-19-2004, 03:47 PM

Geary, it's at the Seattle Art Museum. It's Leon Delafosse. I did find an image of it on the web:

Kimberly Dow · 04-19-2004, 05:26 PM

That is a gorgeous example Michele - thanks for posting it. I love how the black runs into his suit. I wish someone would hire me to paint Jamie in his tux - his mother can't afford to pay me.

Does this mean Mike that you wont start that thread? I truly would love to see examples of good, bad etc... and where is the line drawn that turns them into figuratives. I always thought of figuratives as having to be looking away, but I have since seen plenty of portraits like that. And when you get to groups of people...then it's a fine line to me unless they are formal and staring right at the viewer.

Kimberly Dow · 04-19-2004, 05:28 PM

Michele - a quick question since you have seen that portrait in person: Can you tell me what colors are in that hand ? Just a guess maybe...it recedes so beautifully.

Kimberly Dow · 04-19-2004, 05:52 PM

[QUOTE=Mike McCarty]You don't have to do that, I'm sure you could do it. I was just having flashbacks of your last "many figured" project.

I am supposed to turn down a coyote dare? Ha! (What kind of yankee - oops! - I mean Texan do you think I am?)

I want to crack a wise one about you flashing back to the bordello figures, but I cant seem to make it sound right... my wit is leaving me.

Mike McCarty · 04-19-2004, 06:22 PM

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Does this mean Mike that you wont start that thread?

Ms. Kimberly,

You don't need me to start that thread. I charge an additional $5 for thread starting, which would bring it to a total of $5. So step up, be a starter of threads.

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I am supposed to turn down a coyote dare?

I could withdraw my coyote dare and resubmit it as an armadillo dare. They are much easier to wiggle out of since they are often found drunk on the side of the road.

As to bordellos, I much prefer a chianti.