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Old 12-15-2001, 04:25 PM   #10
Abdi R Malik Abdi R Malik is offline
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Hello Karin & Steve,

I didn't mean to interfere but I remembered what Mr. Daniel Arredondo said "artist helps another artist." That's a nice words.

Actually I agree with both of you, any artist can do either paint by seeing it or by his/her knowledge. Depends on the artist skill, favor.

I believed some of the Old Masters painted what they did see, they emulated all the conditions of the subjects, the surroundings at that time on the canvas. And some did not instead they created the conditions, meaning what they had in mind. Rubens, for instance, sometimes he painted very yellow for skin and elongation of the hands which had been followed by his pupil Anthony V Dyck.

That doesn't mean they were not capable to do such realistic illusions. They were, but they just liked to paint that way. Realistic painters are not similar, Jacque L David, Rubens, Ingres, Rembrandt, Delacroix had their own techniques, differed one to another. I admire Ingres for his photorealistic portrait painting. I also like Rembrandt for his stroke. He scratched the subject's face eagerly and still looked realistic. Goya for his bold stroke, deep color etc.

The way out is up to the audiences to select each of the painters that he/she favors the most.

In 19th Century There was dispute between two most influenced painters. I think we all know that, Ingres and Delacroix. They threw bad remarks each other. In my opinion the Masters should not do that, bad image, disgraceful. They could not pacify their egos. Every artist has the ego but don't let the ego burst out uncontrolably.

I apologized for my words and my English.

Regards,
Abdi
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