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Patricia Joyce 07-06-2005 10:19 PM

Staying loose
 
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I have been trying to stay loose and relaxed, yet continue sketching daily before the workshop next week. I had so much fun with this photo I took in April. Vine charcoal on newsprint . . .took about an hour.

Allan Rahbek 07-07-2005 04:54 AM

Beautiful drawing, very painterly.

Allan

Patricia Joyce 07-07-2005 09:14 AM

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Thanks Allan. ;) I took better pics of it this morning and tweaked just the tiniest bit. My intention was to think values and painting, not drawing, so I used only vine charcoal and my fingers. I really tried to concentrate on shapes instead of features. Vine charcoal is so tenuous, you can only be loose - I like that!

Chris Saper 07-07-2005 11:59 AM

Pat,

What a completely engaging, lovely little piece. Were you working on a toned surface?

I also love vine charcoal, and I agree with all you've said. I recently experimented with LItho Coal, and will post the image in materials when I get a few minutes - you might try it- it heat sets, and becomes unsmudgable (sounds like a Natalie Cole song.)

You are really doing such lovely work.

Patricia Joyce 07-07-2005 01:15 PM

Hi Chris,
Thank you for the compliment!! It's very encouraging to get this from you!! The paper is just newsprint. I have never heard of Litho Coal but will look for it, sounds very interesting.

Julie Deane 07-07-2005 05:48 PM

Hi Patricia -

Not only good values, but very loose, flowing, "painterly" lines and a well-done drawing overall. Very nice!

Sharon Knettell 07-07-2005 06:11 PM

Pat,

Your drawing is beautiful, so beautiful in fact I would THROW OUT the newsprint and get some reasonably priced archival paper. Little gems like this are a treasure, and it is worth having them on better paper. Use the newsprint for doodling out ideas or training puppies. It yellows and embrittles rapidly. Just look at a pile of old newspapers to see what I mean.

Jimmie Arroyo 07-07-2005 09:55 PM

I'm so jealous of the way you've handled this. It's very fresh and quite possibly my favorite piece of yours. It feels like you were'nt trying to create a woek of art, it just happend naturally. I'm proud of you, keep up the great work.

Jean Kelly 07-07-2005 11:57 PM

Hi Pat, I like your "loose" style a lot! This is a little treasure.

Jean

Patricia Joyce 07-08-2005 10:04 AM

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Julie, Sharon, Jimmie, Jean,

I'm so happy to read your responses. I was pretty tickled with the way she happened so quickly and easily. I'd like to think it is no accident but that I am getting something out of the dozens of BAD drawings I do in between the couple of good drawings!!! I was thinking of Ruben's Head of a Boy when I visualized this drawing. The Ruben's poster is in my studio and I have studied it every day for three years - and I have copied it several times.

Sharon, I'll save the newsprint for the puppy we are adopting in two weeks, when I return from Vegas, a one year old german shepherd - Greta, she is beautiful!!! and buy some charcoal paper ;)

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to preserve newsprint?

Jimmie, you jealous of me?????? That's a universal switcharoo!!!! Remember you are MY drawing mentor!!!

Michele Rushworth 07-08-2005 10:12 AM

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I'd like to think it is no accident but that I am getting something out of the dozens of BAD drawings I do in between the couple of good drawings!!!
I read somewhere quite recently -- I wish I could remember where -- that the purpose of the vast majority of all the artwork we create is to be somewhat "bad", as preparation for the few top notch things we are fortunate enough to create once in a while along the way.

As far as preserving newsprint, it's full of acid so it will dissolve over time (sorry). However, to keep this drawing in decent shape longer you might want to go to a good art supply store or very good framer and ask about some adhesive to attach it to a mat board so that when it starts to fall apart it won't literally "fall apart".

I can definitely see the feeling of Rubens' "head of a boy" in this. I thought of it too, before you mentioned it.

Mike McCarty 07-08-2005 10:22 AM

Patricia,

Very nice drawing.

You might want to get your best digital image and create a giclee on good paper. Then when the original goes to dust the other will live on.

Michele,

That quote is from the book "Art and Fear," I think.

Patricia Joyce 07-08-2005 01:55 PM

Thanks Michele and Mike,
Michele, is that the book? Do you recommend it Mike. I may have to purchase it!

Mike McCarty 07-08-2005 02:04 PM

I do recommend it highly. In fact it is the subject of this thread:

http://forum.portraitartist.com/show...=3734#post3734

Michele Rushworth 07-08-2005 02:31 PM

I don't have the book but maybe whatever I read was someone quoting from it.

Elizabeth Schott 07-08-2005 08:02 PM

Well Pat, whatever it is you are doing, please keep doing it! This is wonderful!

:)

Terri Ficenec 07-08-2005 10:14 PM

Pat!!! This is just so gorgeous and engaging! I agree with Mike, it's worth preserving on something other than newsprint . . . a nice archival print probably wouldn't be too hard to do?

i love this. :)

Julie Boyles 07-09-2005 11:47 AM

Pat,

This is wonderful! I remember you posting the source photos (I think) and you did a great job with them. All the time you're spending sketching is really paying off.

I hope you have a great and productive time at the upcoming workshop! I hope you'll show us what you get done there.

Julie
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Teen Vid

Kimberly Dow 07-09-2005 06:18 PM

Pat,

Newsprint???! You should be slapped. This is too good. I hope you are very proud of yourself!

Isabel Chiang 07-10-2005 01:08 PM

Pat,


it's a wonderful drawing! Full of life.


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