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Leslie Bohoss 08-14-2005 06:45 AM

Eve
 
Hello

Here is my painting of Eve (http://forum.portraitartist.com/showthread.php?t=6115)

This one is 24*30 cm (9.4" * 11.8") on panel.
My 2nd attempt and as you can see is a mix of the last ref. pictures and nr. 2. (the rotated)

My first using of Marvin's flesh palette. I can only say it works simple and speedy. (not regarding the fact Im still a greenhorn)

Thanks for viewing and ready for any comments too. :)

btw: not the best shot but colors are okay.

bye!

Allan Rahbek 08-14-2005 10:28 AM

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Hi Leslie,

This is a beautiful portrait, nice varied edges, good values and a smashing color scale.
However I think that you could improve the drawing, especially the angles between the planes of the head.

I am sure you will understand if you study the lines I made even though I am not sure if I picked the right reference photo ?

Good work, Allan

Leslie Bohoss 08-14-2005 11:18 AM

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Thank you Allan !

Drawing, Basics.. still a trouble.
Upps I was wrong with preference photo. This one was even not posted...
silly me.Sorry, here is the head and the other one was using only for the neck. Anyway, youre still right it is off.

bye

Judson Eneas 08-14-2005 11:40 AM

Eve
 
I see some blues on the shadow side of her face. Can you consider putting those in?

Leslie Bohoss 08-14-2005 12:28 PM

Hi Judson
No, she's wearing on the other photo pinkish or peachy t-shirt, so I've choosen this variant for painting shirt and for reflected light color.

Well.. on the screen just found some flaws.. I'll go to repair it. My freehand style isnt so developed as expected.. :thumbsdow :(

Enzie Shahmiri 08-14-2005 12:38 PM

Leslie, the eyes turned out really nice and I hope you correct the drawing as well to make it look super. Since you are using Marvin's palette, you will find that matching the skin tones after having to move something, is easier than ever.

If the color here is close to the painting then I would suggest you examine the skin again. As the forehead turnes towards the viewer next to the highlight is a small section of Terra Rosa Value 8. This is the area immediately over the nose. Scumble this high intensity color to make that area come forward more.

I see you had lightened the area right above her left eye and darkened it again. Look at the shape and mix a bit of grey into the color you used there. That will make it recede without looking dark.

There is a high intensity color right below her right eye, which needs to get toned out. Remember high intensity colors come forward, but that side needs to go back in space.

You could use Terra Rosa Value 8 under the cheek of her left eye. Again scumble to bring that cheek area forward and make it look more lively.

Now to the neck. In her right side I see Indian Red Value 8 greyed down followed by Terra Rosa Value 9 pure, followed by Indian Red Value 8 greyed down.

Please take the Value numbers just as a hint in what neighborhood to pick your color mix from, before choosing to apply it to the painting. Remember I am not looking at the original and am going by what I see on my monitor.

How I miss Marvin's instruction on this forum! He would walk you through it with dead on instruction.

Leslie Bohoss 08-14-2005 02:07 PM

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Hi Enzie
Thank you for your detailed analyse!

(The others should know that the using this palette was initiated by Enzie and her workshop at Marvin)

Well, Im not sure turn all drawings flaws to the right... I gave my best.
You're right, I've scumbled a lot and repaint many areas. For me is this normal, since I still paint --as you would say : hit and miss.. making some steps forward indeed (I hope so) and will try to work after a system.

Here is the new stand:
I'm still afraid to make bigger changes.. knowing myself it will be ended at "one more ruined painting" :)

(first is deleted, for making some space to my account..)

Enzie Shahmiri 08-14-2005 02:49 PM

It is looking much better Leslie. See how the neck took form, by just doing that slight adjustment.

Never be afraid of ruining a painting, because that becomes a roadblock on your route to mastering a better technique.
My mom was after me for a real long time to repaint a painting that hangs in my house, saying it was sooo orange. She is of course right, but I told her that I will keep it just the way it is to remind of how far I have come in trying to become better. When I compare those skin tones to the ones I am doing now, it is rewarding to see that no time has been wasted.

You are on the right track and don't get frustrated. You will see that with Marvin's approach ( if followed step by step) a lot of the frustration can be eliminated.

Keep up the good work!

Leslie Bohoss 08-14-2005 04:39 PM

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Never be afraid of ruining a painting, because that becomes a roadblock on your route to mastering a better technique.
I know. I've only scruple if it better than usually.. I've made a new photo after changing some shapes.
Many thanks for helping!

bye.

Leslie Bohoss 08-15-2005 07:01 PM

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Well, I've struggled a while with it. Following the tips of you and rebuilded entire features for more likeness. Am I still on the right track? :?


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