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Thanks Michele for the Raeburn link.

I think art criticism is a fine and worthy pursuit and I'm glad we can have discussions of what we like and do not like here.

The essential nature of such discussions cannot be for us all to agree. That would be sweeter than Renoir. What we all may hopefully do is respectfully disagree and explain pointedly why.

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Wow, you leave for a few days and everyone gets to go to the museum but you!

I remember the paintings that Marvin shared with us in his presentation where incredibly beautiful and you could see why they would have been under his arm.

I also must point out that the tour of the Met and visiting the Cincinnati Wing of the Cincinnati Art Museum with Tim was two of the most educational endeavors of my workshops. The statement of

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that skin was really just furry brush strokes of green and pink and white

I'm going to try that!

Timothy, for the sake of argument or opinion, I believe it is really important to keep the apples with the apples and the oranges with the oranges.

I was making a point about Renoir as an Impressionist. I don't think it is
right to compare him to a classic realist. He was't one. But I felt that he could draw better than the others I mentioned. As to him doing a portrait of one of my daughters, I think the examples below are nice. (Sorry, the garden image is fuzzy).

Hey Beth--

I don't know...think you're giving The Great Renoir way too much credit for draftsmanship. There are better Impressionists for drawing--Manet and Degas, to name two. Mr. R's people all look like generic dolls to me, inflated from the inside with a tire pump, I believe. So much for the realization of form.

But I love ya,
Tom