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Mischa Milosevic 10-31-2007 05:51 PM

Cecilia Beaux,
 
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Here is a lady that valued and understood her love for art. Her dream of achieving excellence is recognized in every brush stroke.

One of my favorite paintings of hers is this one. Sorry, I do not have the name but would love to know and if someone has this painting in higher resolution please send it to me.

Thank you

Laurel Alanna McBrine 11-01-2007 09:44 AM

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Mischa,

Cecilia Beaux’s work is exquisite.

I had the privilege of viewing the painting posted above in the “stacks” (where paintings are stored behind glass) at The Metropolitan Museum of Art this past February. The title of the painting is “Ernesta”, completed in 1914.

I found it interesting that the same girl, all grown up, was also immortalized as a small child in “Ernesta with Nurse”, painted by Cecilia Beaux in 1894. This is another amazing work of art with gorgeous brushwork and a unique composition.

Mischa Milosevic 11-05-2007 11:16 AM

Laurel, thank you! How fortunate to have seen this painting in person.

When ever I have the pleasure to stand next to a well executed painting I seem to be mesmerized and cannot take my self away from it. On a number of occasions I have had the security people come and ask that I step back. I do comply but then there is always something that draws me near that I must have a closer look. Naturally the security must come again and I must explain my self again. After a while they just laugh and let me be.

Steven Sweeney 11-06-2007 09:54 AM

A passage from Alain de Botton

Mischa Milosevic 11-08-2007 05:39 PM

Thank you Steven. These statements by Alain de Botton express the knack for diplomacy while at the same time relating some fact.
A great artist once said something like simplicity of design is what we should strive for. Also, if it is impossible to make a small sketch without infinite labor, then we can be pretty sure we are starting off on the wrong foot. So, it is safe to say that any subject that will look effective in an exhibition gallery or on the wall of an average size living room is also definable in a 5 by 7 inch sketch at a distance of 6 feet or more.

I think that painting is very much like writing. There can be so many detailed passages in a book that the reader who wants the story to move along becomes irritated. A conversationalist can get lost in detail and trivia too and so can the artist.

Then again we can ask the question, what type of reader are we? Do we prefer Shakespeare, Tom Sawyer, children's books, etc.

As we think on the subject of art, let us not lose our self in the philosophy of thought and dare to forget that all we need is evident in nature.

Do you carry your sketch book with you everywhere you go? If not, why not?

Henry Wienhold 11-15-2007 10:47 AM

What is true art?
 
I think that it is human nature to try and define or label every aspect of life that we engage in while living on this planet. In a sense when you can make a definition to describe a subject, place, person or thing then we can possess and capture it by defining and then cause closure of the mystery. A pseudo way of conquering is the implication I'm making here. It seems until we can finally understand our minds will not rest.

Art has many definitions endless diversity, but yet there is no final definition, no exact explanation.

That is the beauty of art you can't make absolute definition, to me that is why it is called art, that sense of mystery is the fascination behind creation. And what is more pleasing or beautiful than a mystery? That search for meaning to the elusive mystery causes us to go on searching, and creating art.

If mankind ever comes up with an exact definition it will no longer be art. I predict that will never happen, art is as endless as the universe.

Celeste McCall 11-15-2007 07:11 PM

My answer to the question that you pose is that a 'true' artist is an artist who uses his/her creativity and Imagination .

There are artists who replicate without creativity or imagination and they are copyist artists. The differences between ordinary replication and in creative/ imaginative replication is profoundly different in my humble opinion.

Great discussion! :)

SB Wang 11-17-2007 11:30 AM

"Do you carry your sketch book with you everywhere you go? If not, why not?"

During the Korea war, Ridgway gained the nickname, "Old Iron Tits," for his habit of wearing hand grenades attached to his load-bearing equipment at chest level. {Photographs however show he only wore one grenade on one side of his chest; the so-called "grenade" on the other side was in fact a first-aid packet}.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Ridgway

Mischa Milosevic 11-20-2007 09:42 AM

Henry, thank you. Your words express sincere thought.

I like this question "And what is more pleasing or beautiful than a mystery?" and a thought came to mind as I understand it. Answer: beautiful and true to life art. Please do not get me wrong, I believe one is but a student his or her entire life but when one learns from the master artist then and only then one has a chance to understand the mystery of true art.

"That search for meaning to the elusive mystery causes us to go on searching, and creating art." Here, I believe "the elusive mystery" will always be if one does not recognize the simple signs of masterful work. Many times we have heard that if we learn from nature, still life setups, live models, put into practice proven methods one will understand and learn much faster. Here too, it has been my experience, one must have true to life guidance.

If we pick-out ten of our all time favorite artists, what is it that they all had or have in common? It will be plain to see that they all had a clear knowledge, a solid foundation in the basics. Some examples of the basics: true to life line and tonal drawing, value relationships, composition, and at least a basic understanding of color/value.


Celeste, you raise a excellent point of observation! I believe that before one even thinks to assume the title artist, let alone master artist, one must consider your statement.

Thank you!


Wang, thank you. That is a nice painting of Ridgway by Clarence Lamont MacNelly.

Mischa Milosevic 11-27-2007 05:47 PM

Antonio Cisari, anothr flag of excellence
 
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His religious paintings are Raphaelesque in their compositional outlines and their polished surfaces, but are nearly photographic in effect. He fulfilled many important commissions from churches in Italy and Switzerland.

Ciseri also painted a significant number of portraits.


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